Mass Group Buff AA for beastlords?

I noticed mass group buff isn't listed as a possible AA for beastlord's in game (on windows client) but is listed as possible in the AA section of the wiki. I was curious which was correct, do beastlord's get access to mass group buff or not?

Thanks!

 

So they got access to MGB late on Al'Kabor but only on the Mac Client for whatever reason.

I forget why/how this came to be, but it should be on this server one would imagine.

 

They have access right now and it functions on the dev server. Can also check aa progress here: https://www.takproject.net/forums/aatracker.php

 

Correct!

When Hobart was working on the server he valued community feedback rather than imposing strict Live-likeness or whatever kind of server he desired.

When Perma-Paci had to be fixed because of the reverse-Pac tomfoolery, he compromised and allowed the bardsong to last significantly longer than intended.

He gave Beastlords MGB Paragon for no particularly good reason other than the community asked for it and he found it easy to implement.

Beastlord MGB was part of the last? patch before the server was sunset, the same time he implemented some other changes (RIP EQMac.com archives). I'd guess that when us Mac users updated our client (because Sony forced us to do so to log in), the PC hack client wasn't updated with a new MGB list file. I vaguely, hazily recall PC users being able to use the AA via /altact but had no way to natively purchase MGB themselves (@surron may know since he had a Beastlord or @Exoslife perhaps).

I remember a crazy couple days when the PC hack was broken and everyone wondered if half the server's population would ever be able to log in again. The Mac client was updated and Hobart had plenty of plans for a brighter future for the server that never came to be.

 

Will MGB only be added to mac client and not PC client on this server also?

 

I have always played on PC as a beastlord, but I don’t remember how I purchased it. I might have logged onto my Mac to buy it. I then used a makeshift macro to activate my MGB.

 

Bard pax lasted like 6mins


#lulzspaide

 

I will see if i can figure out how to add to pc client.

 

Buy a Mac

 

It would not be AKurate for it to exist on the PC client. And I believe fixing minor bugs like that might taint the AKuracy of the server.

 

By 2003 monk AC had improved right?

Improve one leather DPS misfortune, fix them both for balance IMO!

 

I got mgb working with for BST using pc client. Will be in dll for later release.

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Dlly dlly

 

Just pick and choose AKuracy. Bsts get MGB cuz hobart enabled it which should state that changes as far as 2003 might be able to get an eye.

But hell the eq devs fixed monks long prior to that in regardless to the reckless overnerf. However, no. Because pick and choose.

 

Beast MGB existed for Mac users, so it should exist for PC users since this server caters to both and it existed on AK.

The Monk AC issue existed on AK as well for all, didn't it? So why shouldn't it exist for everyone here as well? If Monk AC gets fixed I want a casino damn it.

 

Casino isn't the same expac (but I'd love LDON). Monk issue was fixed prior in the timeline to beastlords receiving mgb - so if hobart was applying far later changes why not earlier balanced ones. Furthermore it was brought up to hobart that pc's could not see mgb - he considered that not to be a bug because pc's were the bug.

Did the monk ac issue exist on AK? Honestly I assume so but to assume that hobart would never have applied the patches that the rest of the pop team agreed on when he was trying to implement stuff as far as loy is almost silly. At some point fixes are applied. If as far as beastlord mgb is the barometer hobart used then the monk change falls well within that purview.


To quote you "the (beast MGB) issue existed on AK for all as well didnt it? So why shouldnt it exist.... here". Again it wasn't bugged if you had proper access. (edited for Mokli's sensibilities)

 

You have a funny definition of the term 'quote'.

In the end, this is an AK restoration project that caters to both Mac and PC users (and even some Linux). The majority of which are PC users most likely.

Anyway, I personally don't think the MGB AA on Beastlords is a big deal. I would just have someone on a Mac purchase it for me, then I'd use a hotkey using an /alt activate macro. If people are just going to do that anyway, why not just put it in the client for symmetry and convenience?

 

You have an interesting definition of AKuracy. To me - I don't believe it should be strict, i think bugs should be fixed in a general sense and adjusted to the era of time since there's a goodly portion of our data that comes from live anyway, so utilizing a set of adjustments from the period makes sense - to me.

However, if we are going to be AKurate - frustration and all - lets do it. That includes the minor annoyances of monks without ac and pc users having to figure out a way around the beastlord mgb issue etc. (perhaps even fun things like infinite mana for SKs an d 6m pac for bards.)
Personally I prefer the fixes rather than the frustration. However, if you really want selective frustration I'd love to hear why.

I'd like a working-killable quarm, rangers being able to bow walled mobs, earth-a rings functional, earth-b flag mandatory, xegony whose event works among many many other things. But again - I'd rather not pick and choose. I'm not confident enough to say that I know better than the devs who worked on pop.

 

Isn't the mantra of the server to replicate AK as much as possible while fixing bugs and exploits? The Monk AC issue would change how Monks are handled here. Whether in large or small part doesn't matter, its a game mechanic change that is different than on AK.

The Beast MGB UI issue is just that and doesn't change gameplay.

Personally, I would want a snapshot of AK, bugs, exploits, tedium, and all, but that's not possible.

 

Locking this. Every thread is not for debating monk AC.