If someone actually updated the pc client link on the Getting Started Wiki so it actually worked. Seems like reading the forums that there's more bugs and technical issues to even get this game working.
Are you not able to download the client from the link? Or are you talking about ironing out every possible bug/client issue?
Neither - I believe it's pure frustration that a single link cannot be given that has all the files you need (client - updates - eqmule - whatever) in one pretty package to download. Instead, you read over the multiple posts in the technical forums to locate the issue(s) you are experiencing downloading multiple updates/fixes/etc. in hopes to finding a fix and actually be able to login.
I was able to download the client from the link - and I understand there's issues that need to be ironed out. But for the known issues that have fixes under the forums (2 mouse arrows, not being able to move the screen, eqw.dll missing, mcv.someting missing, etc. etc.) why is this not in that download package?
I could be mistaken, but aren't there are legal issues with making copies of the game client widely available to the public? I had access here because I still had the old game files saved on my Mac.
The client on the wiki was put together before the recent update to the PC client and eqw. I'm sure someone will take the time to repackage it and update the link eventually. Either way, the PC client linked on the wiki is still fully capable of logging in and playing the game.
I still use the PC client available from the wiki link, I haven't played around with Secrets updated EQW yet since the client I have is very stable and usable. If someone wants to update the package I can make sure it gets uploaded to the google files again. With regards to legal issues, yes there are some, but that is why the wiki is hosted by a third party and not specifically endorsed by the dev team. Everlastin, yes, there is a need to try and consistently improve the technical support and install process, agreed. If you can pitch in with wiki edits or whatever other skills you have that would be great.
It is. I don't know what you're talking about. The download just lacks Secret's EQW replacement. You can still use it without having to download anything else, except the frame rate limiter.
I've tried it twice - both clean installs - and keep getting 2 mouse cursors, can't move the EQ window on the desktop and unable to start multiple sessions.
The 'phantom' background cursor shouldn't affect play, other than perhaps popping up some annoying mouseover menu in a background app or a taskbar preview in window's Aero UI. This client has some annoying issues because it's so old and was intended to always be on top and fullscreened. Hit ctrl-alt-r to unlock the cursor and move the window by click dragging the titlebar.
No offense - I respect the amount of work that has been done and continues to be done on the project - but even though it's not affecting gameplay - it's annoying as shit. I love the idea of bringing AK back - but this client is so damn old and buggy, it's not even fun for some to play on. Good luck with the project - I hope to try again maybe when everything is more stable with the client and some of these issues are fixed without doing 15 different things to correct them.
How did you play on AK? I ask because both the Windows and the Mac clients that are in the wiki downloads are the exact same clients used to play on AK. If you used to play on a Mac, then I suggest you continue to do so here. The two clients have never worked exactly the same.
In the broadest sense, the "project" of a Mac version of Everquest could now be considered orphaned technology (a form of abandonware) due to the the original developer shutting it down and making it clear they will no longer support the project, an event which happened a couple of years ago. Copyright around abandonware is still pretty fresh ground, largely because the duration of copyright in a general sense is far longer (by decades) than the time it takes for software and hardware to become abandonware. There are a number of software companies who advocate the preservation of old technology, and with the recent move by Daybreak with Project 1999, it appears that this is the case with Everquest's current copyright holder. Ordinarily, the proper channels include seeking and being granted permission before deriving and/or distributing copyrighted works. I believe that as far as the server code is concerned, because this project is in some way connected (assumption) to the same originating source code as Project 1999, and because our developers are part of that community, then by extension this server's code falls under the umbrella of whatever permissions have been granted to EQEMU and Project 1999. The primary blurred issue revolves around client distribution, which is unique to TAKProject. Unlike most EQEMU projects, this project truly is an orphaned work because the copyright holder does not make any alternative available of it's kind to users (Mac users), nor does it plan to continue any support for it. I can assume some permissions were granted to the EQEMU community for the Titanium (and possibly other) clients, but this is a different client. Nobody is profiting from what we're doing here. This is strictly a fan-run community (developers and players alike). Software developers tend to look positively on that, but some business people do not. It largely depends on who you're dealing with. Ultimately, nothing good comes out of abandonware disappearing entirely, for users and copyright holders alike.
Alt tab out and back to client, and ghost cursor goes away usually. Get secrets latest update, and it supposed to work better. If two downloads are too much, no clue what to tell you. H
Hmmm yeah it worked for me pretty swell on the 1st try. and ctrl alt r gets rid of the cursor for me, i don't seem to have any probs with it. It took me all of about 5 minutes to search for the net ports to trigger-port forward. Kind of hard to do the 1st time if you don't understand what you're looking at but there are a billion howto's on port forwarding from great tech support forums. If you're client is slowing and crashing that is most definately a port forwarding issue with your router and the old netcode. I use to get that back when I played in classic during velious until I figured it out. Had to even port forward back then to live EQ servers.
Maybe you need to quit running uTorrent and downloading porn in the background while playing? Just guessing, since your problems are unique and not what others are experiencing.
you download the client from the wiki. then you download the latest client from this thread if you want a newer client that will have future updates. http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?6477-The-Al-kabor-Project-(EQMac)/page14
On that older client I used to hit the windows key, then double click back on the game window and the double cursor thing used to go away. Usually. But the client was perfectly usable for me. The new Secrets version is better though, no double mouse cursor, and alt/shift/ctrl doesn't get stuck. You should persevere and get it working because the server is worth it and it doesn't take long to get things running well. p.s. Just to clarify, that wiki version should work right out of the box. Just run eqw.exe and you should be good to go. The only issue is double mouse sometimes and alt/shift/ sticking and the new Secrets tweak fixes that.
I run with no issues, as do apparently many players. Never had the double mouse issue, so don't know what that's like. Give someone something for free and they complain... wow.
Disconnects and mouse issues can be frustrating, but so far everyone I know with issues has been able to resolve them without too much run-around. There is so much made with the two mouses (alt-ctrl-r fixes this) and no third person scroll wheel view (not classic). Once you get used to it, you forget it even existed really. This community, this era and this server in particular are worth any initial headaches.
You can get a system that runs windows just as good, for less. When you buy a Mac, it has top end hardware in it at the time it was released. I don't think any of them come with standard magnetic hard drives anymore. They all use SSD. So, yeah, if you compare a system at half the price with a dualcore i5 CPU, magnetic hard drive, and half the memory to a Mac with a quadcore i7 CPU, SSD, and double the memory, guess which is going to win out hands down? Lets talk apples to apples here.
I used to buy Mac computers. Now I build my own PCs. I would never go back. The system I built runs AAA games on ultra for a little over $700. Hard to beat that.
Prior to my MBP, I had PCs and I'd also built every computer I'd ever had. I feel the same way, in that I'd never go back, partly because my wife and I each have a laptop. They're perfect for our lifestyle, and I'm loathe to ever run Windows again; I love the Apple OS.
have you never heard of hacintosh? I build my on windows PC, and I build a PC for Mac OS for 1/4 the cost of what apple wanted. I guess some people just like saying they spend over 2000$ on a computer.
