Poll 2 of 2 Devs are curious.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Speedz, May 9, 2017.

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Box limits

  1. Leave alone

  2. 2

  3. 6

  4. unlimited

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  1. Linkamus

    Linkamus People Like Me

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    This. IF any change is made to boxing limits, it should be lowered.
     
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  2. showstring

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    just echoing these sentinments also
     
  3. Fadetree

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    I felt anxious about that too initially...I really think this was mostly just curiosity rather than trying to gauge something that needed to be done. Mostly the results seem to be that people like it as is.
     
  4. Tuluvien

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    I think it's important to engage the community and see where general preference lies. That does not have to be acted upon, but knowledge IS power.
     
  5. pharmakos

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    limit boxes during prime time / weekends? :D

    maybe do that one weekend a month just for the hell of it anyway, as an experiment/bonding event Single Box Weekends, learn to group again!
     
  6. jcmtg

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    Create new meta thread: why did devs bring up Polls #1 & #2.
     
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  7. Amirite

    Amirite Well-Known Member

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    i would love to box 6, but it gets annoying without macroquest. i'm fine with 3, although 4 boxing sounds nice so i could add a slower to my trio...
     
  8. Bum

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    I wish we could have 4 so I could add my Druid to my bst/mage/clr

    I 4 boxed on AK and I miss the 4th here
     
  9. Tyrion

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    4 was pretty perfect for that mezzbot bard slot
     
  10. jcmtg

    jcmtg New Member

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    Can mezzbot with 3-box enc/clr/brd aready. What's your ench trio w/o a brd?
     
  11. Speedz

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    Even tho this seems like a witty post on the surface. I do understand the sentiment.
    As I said before I didn't exactly want to do the polls for the specific reason of creating uncertainty in the playerbase as to just what hairball the staff coughs up one day.

    To those that have been concerned about these polls. There is nothing to fret over. We saw exactly what we hoped to see in some regard.

    On AK, the playerbase was united for the most part. It was like a huge family. We may not have always agreed on the stupid simple daily things.
    But, we all agreed on the health of the server, the health of the economy, and we were all upset over how the PC introduction to the server harmed the AK life.
    Then finally we all mourned the loss of AK at the end. Many of us knew those that passed away in the time of AK and after. Many of us knew those people or knew of them.
    We all were effected that were loyal AK players and fans/friends of each other. It hurt like losing a real family member...

    The double edged sword however was, SOE likely would have pulled the plug anyway eventually, the PC stuff just made it happen sooner. Tho had it NOT been for the PC hack, we would not have TAKP.

    Now, the reason I quoted this and went on about a summary of AK and loses we endured and how it relates to what I personally wanted to see from these polls is this:
    The community is now a mix of old time AK players (some still missing) and now new players from various places like live and p99.
    The polls have so far shown me that even tho many players are not AK, they carry the same values. Our community is showing they stand together.

    This is exactly what we wanted. We can restore as close as we can to what AK was in game play, but it is YOU that restores the community.
    We are not going to mess with that.
     
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  12. Bum

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    Btw 100% fault is on Secrets for ruining AK by opening the can of worms called the pc hack.
     
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  13. Lenas

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    Then I guess it's also 100% Secrets' fault that we have this amazing server, so they cancel out.
     
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  14. Speedz

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    ^ This
     
  15. Locnar

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    I'm not convinced SOE would of closed down AK if Secrets and his hack did not come along. Closing and wiping the player data on a EQ server was a very serious move. I think they would of let us linger on indefinitely, so long as we played nice.

    As for this poll, I chose 2 box.
     
  16. Haynar

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    AK was on life support before the PC hack. The PC hack allowed gathering data to help with takp.

    The PC hack just made it more annoying for the natives in those final days.

    The PC may have actually contributed to a little more time while in ICU before the plug was pulled.

    AK was probably costing $10k a month to keep up. It was a bleed on the bottom line.
     
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  17. lurari

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    People forget that Faite (and others) had Mac-native hacks. The PC client brought MQ2 and trollware to the masses, but AK had its share of Mac native problems, too.
     
  18. shortok

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    I will never forget Faite's Quick J*****f M**********n instructions - Guaranteed Denial Warp Guide Youtub video.
    (there was an adult video in his Spotlight search.)
     
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  19. Lenas

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    Not forgotten but nowhere near as accessible as MQ2. Not something any uneducated pleb would be able to do by downloading some .exe's and typing commands in-game.
     
  20. Oiwon

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    I also prefer a 2 box limit, but to change the box limit at this point would be kinda weird.

    But if weird is your thing here's a crazy idea..

    Keep Classic through Velious at 3 boxes the way it currently is, but change/limit Luclin and PoP zones to 2 boxes.

    Muahahahaa

    Cheers
     
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  21. Faults

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    Only because the final legwork hadn't been done. But the ability was there.
     
  22. sowislifesowislove

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    Do these polls again after Luclin or PoP. Call me pessimistic but I see a flood of people coming to this server once those expansions open up and the raid scene going to shit. I mean what was the peak "total number of players" 6 months ago low to mid 100's? It's gone up nearly 100% in 6 months.
     
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  23. Fadetree

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    Yeah I worry about that too. I think we should server cap at 500 and spawn another identical server, with a short window of time where you can transfer. Or, frankly, we could be elitist snobs and go to invite only using a sponsorship model, where you can only get a slot if you know a current player who is willing to sponsor you and would be responsible for your behavior for some amount of time. Or we could do queuing but everyone hates that, including me. Not a lot of other options. Reducing the box limit would help some but thats just a stopgap and would change the nature of the server.
     
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  24. Speedz

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    I think if the population hits a steady 350+ maybe 400 that is a good time to revive these polls. Good idea.
     
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  25. Haynar

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    I personally have no interest in splitting the server or reducing boxing limit unless there is a resource issue.

    First I would want to try and make sure we exhasted all means to support higher populations.

    H
     
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  26. Speedz

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    But, aside from instancing contested zones/targets there is a point where population is an issue regardless of server performance.
    The polls are good to gauge how much unrest there is over quality of game play.
     
  27. Tyrion

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    Ench/Cler/Mage + bard would be stellar
     
  28. Dane

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    Eventually, supply and demand will yield a natural saturation point. If people can't ever find mobs up, they are going to leave which lessens competition until they are replaced by someone else.

    Whether you want the server to reach the natural saturation point and/or what you are going to do to slow/stop that from happening is up to the dev team. But at this point, this is all hypothetical. The server has grown quickly over the past few months, but it's still fairly small on a macro level. And hopefully our world will be getting larger in the next few months when Luclin releases, which will allow for more players to do more things. I agree to stay these conversations for the time being.
     
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  29. Dane

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    Stellar, yes. But how easy do you really want the game to be? There is essentially no risk in this foursome.
     
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  30. Speedz

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    A skilled player running just a bard and chanter can be pretty easy mode too.
    I have not played in over a year, but this is my preferred box make up. I don't 3 box even with the option there.

    I'm not as good as many with this combo, but it is still pretty great.