How the hell does Aego get dispelled so much?!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by sowislifesowislove, May 13, 2021.

  1. Tryfan

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    I sometimes wondered though if what the client thought was in the top slot and what the server thinks is in the top slot is always jiving with each other, if say two things (self buff and debuff or song) hit very close to the same time. This sort of issue has cropped up in other problems/elements in a similar way (rampage list comes to mind), its not unreasonable to think it could happen with buffing too. After all, the client doesn't wait for a server response to put an instant clicky in your buff list, it just does it, but it will still take time for the server to know about it. If a debuff or external buff/song registered to the server before your client informs it of the instant clicky buff, the server will think external buff is in slot 1, clicky in slot 2, while the client will be showing clicky in 1 external buff in 2. Since dispels are handled serverside, it would make sense that in this situation you would unexpectedly lose buff in slot 2 when fighting a high level dispeller with a high percentage success rate, and not only that, it would probably KEEP hitting that slot until you clear your top slot and redo the order.

    But I don't know if any of this is true.
     
  2. Mokli

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    I'm open to speculation. It could just be that mobs (especially lower level mobs) are casting dispell more than they should or that we remember and that's why results are skewed for us in conjunction with how dispells actually work.

    Kinda like how we get more stuns from behind here than we remember because we aren't lvl 65 and have all of those Lightning Reflexes AA's yet.
     
  3. solar

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    There are currently some issues with stacking which do cause a desync in buff slots but this is not expected to happen normally and is something I'd consider a bug. There is another behavior that is by design which is when a buff is expiring, if you refresh it at just the right time as it's fading, it will expire again immediately after landing on you.
     
  4. Break

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    Is there a reason other than akkuracy that this is by design? It always seemed like an unintended bug to me.
     
  5. showstring

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    It's just how it be. It's how it was on eqlive and on eqmac, and you better like it
     
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  6. Auyster

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    Just stop sucking and don't get dispelled.
     
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  7. showstring

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    Screenshot 2021-08-30 210853.jpg

    out of all those buffs, a single Cancel Magic from a blue con giant in Kael, and dispells Aegoslim

    of course
     
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  8. Darchon

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    The game was likely so enraged by the horrible spell icons used in that screenshot that it just went straight for maximum damage and took out Aegolism.
     
  9. showstring

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    straight to the flames and rants with this thread
     
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  10. kai4785

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    The WW Dragons have an AE "top slot" dispell every 30 seconds. I can say with some confidence that skipping buffs happens, and it's very random. To the point that there's really just no point in trying to keep any buffs at all. I have had a lot of practice keeping the top two slots open for bard song and a clicky, the next two slots open for two bard haste procs, and then stacking other buffs in slots 5-15. There's just nothing for it. After 30 minutes of dispelling every 30 seconds, you've lost all of those slot 5-15 slot buffs.

    By contrast, in all the Dozekar kills I've been a part of, with the same top slot dispell, I think I've noticed it skip the top slot maybe twice. Getting a bard song in the top two slots for that encounter is the pro strat for sure.