Misc feedback requests

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Torven, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. Ravenwing

    Ravenwing I Feel Loved

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    Zorblak mentions the double-trigger thing happening on AK, as well:

    [Mon Oct 2 22:13:33 2006] Sikkorak tells temraidcore:6, 'Anyone remember the trap mob despawn time? I remember we tested it with DXVT; was it 30 minutes?'
    [Mon Oct 2 22:13:57 2006] You tell temraidcore:6, 'Something like that. I remember it was longer than the trap reset time.'

    I don't think I'm going to turn up anything more definitive. I'd suggest going with a reset of 30 minutes on the traps, a 37-minute despawn timer on the trap mobs, 44 minute repops on static trash, and hazard a wild guess of 60-70 minutes ("a little over an hour") on Va Dyn Khar and the Va Xakras (key mobs).
     
  2. robregen

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    yeah sounds good.
     
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  3. Pithy

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    Yeah, this is why I asked necros who used Funeral Pyre and Blood of Thule on AK to chime in. Similar damage, but no poison counters on Funeral Pyre. On Live, a similar comparison existed between the counter-free shaman LDoN magic DoTs (bane, anathema, etc.) and Blood of Saryrn. My (admittedly subjective) recollection is that Blood generated wildly, enormously more hate, despite doing significantly less damage per tick.
     
  4. Cadsuane

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    Yes, poison counter dot spells generated a significant amount of aggro when they landed, as did the asystol line because of the AC debuff. All fire/magic dot spells were low aggro, essentially only the damage causing hate.
     
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  5. Torven

    Torven I Feel Loved

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    I love it when this thread is active.

    That makes sense, and the answer I was expecting, considering what I've dug up this morning. It has to be from the counters since DoT hate is per-tick. Discounting counters, the hate on spells landing would be 201 vs. 431 hate for Pox and Bane, respectively. (and bane is an ancient spell vs pox being a 59 kunark spell) That's more, but comments here seem to indicate the gap is much wider.

    Pasting all this stuff for posterity since it gets lost:

    A forum post from 04-03-2002 quoting a dev comment: https://glisteningwhisker.ie/forum/threads/6321-Slow-aggro-to-be-fixed

    April 23rd 2002 patch note:
    - Casters of slow spells recently given a disease component (such as Shiftless Deeds and Turgur’s Insects) should no longer attract undue attention to themselves.

    Spell history for Turgur's: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spellhistory.html?id=1588&source=Live
    2002-03-19 05:50 Added Slot 3: Increase Disease Counter by 16
    2002-04-24 12:09 Added Slot 4: Decrease Hate by 200
    2002-05-08 13:28 Removed Slot 4: Decrease Hate by 200 (slow given a -hate component then removed two weeks later; -200 is highly inadequate and a flat hate modifier won't work well when spell hate scales by target maxHP)

    2007 era Rashere dev post: https://web.archive.org/web/2007070...n.sony.com:80/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=110464
    April 12, 2005 patch note:
    - Spells with poison counters no longer have innate agro added. The spells themselves still generate aggro based on their other properities, but you will see a reduction in the amount of aggro generated in many cases.*

    Tashania spell history: 2005-04-12 Changed Hateamount from 0 to 350.
    Howl of Tashan spell history: 2005-04-20 Changed Hateamount from 0 to 1200

    February 21, 2001 patch note:
    — We’ve capped the amount of hate that can be awarded to most
    casters, specifically for debuff-type spells like the Malo and Tash
    series. The hate calculation for these spells takes into account the
    number of hitpoints of the NPC and did not “play nice” with the
    increased HP limit of Velious. It explains why Enchanters, for
    instance, would complain that casting a Tash spell would lead to near-
    instant death.


    Conclusions:

    * The 1200 hate cap was likely implemented on Feb 21 2001.
    * Counter hate is likely the same regardless of how many counters since tash is only one counter; that or the bulk of the hate is from the first counter.
    * Counter hate is probably the 'standard' hate value as mentioned in my hate logic research, otherwise tash's hate would be less than most other spells.
    * Disease counter hate was likely removed in early May 2002.
     
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  6. Ravenwing

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    Impressive sleuthing! That all sounds pretty plausible.
     
  7. Pithy

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    Agreed! So where TAKP gameplay is concerned, is the main change that poison DoTs will generate more hate on their initial cast? Whereas tash hate generation won't change, since it was already at the 1200 cap?

    I can't think of spells with poison counters beyond tash and poison DoTs, heh.
     
  8. showstring

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    will tash agro still be capped at 1200? or are you removing cap and we can expect guaranteed enc death on all raid targets now
     
  9. Ravenwing

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    Tash aggro is still capped at 1200, I think, but it was previously 800 for Tashanian. So with any luck, we can expect 50% more enchanter deaths until they get used to the change!
     
  10. Pithy

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    deathwish gnome approves of this change!
     
  11. Torven

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    All forms of tash will do 1210 hate on targets with 18k or more max HP. The 57 tash will do less hate on targets under 12,000 hp.
     
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  12. Torven

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    Was http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=3919 on AK? I can't find it done in logs. The item IDs for the loot are sub 32k and the earliest comments on Alla about it that I can find are Aug 2003. AK had the hail text for them.

    Nobody seemed keen on doing this event even on Live however, with Alla having missing info on it even today, so I can believe that it was ignored on AK.
     
  13. Mechaike

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    Tem did one or two raids of it maybe, and some enterprising members ran it with smaller teams. Aside from maybe Cromis and um, Delorne(?) I'm not sure anyone would have logs or recall any useful details...

    Bout all I remember is the mobs spawning in a hidden small tunnel and "pathing" out to attack, gradually increasing in power.
     
  14. Pithy

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    Yes, the Fishlord event was on AK. Tem slew a few. I tried to box it a couple of times, which didn't end well :p

    I think Darchon may have some logs. A couple of quotes from the Tem forums:

     
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  15. Darchon

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    Wow I don't even remember running it on AK. I'll look into log when I get home tonight.

    But I do know TLP servers constantly are running it because every mini gives a serverwide shout when slain.
     
  16. Elroz

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    My guild ran it just once when we got into plane of water early PoP, we decided the loot wasn't good enough for the time spent so we never went back.
     
  17. Torven

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    I filmed the events this morning. The descriptions here sound like what I observed, but with one large exception: they were ~25 minutes when I did them, not 3 hours. 3-4 hours sounds kind of insane to me, but I suppose it has to be longish because the event doesn't have a long repop timer.
     
  18. Darchon

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    [Sat Apr 27 21:07:33 2013] Fishlord Lezom says 'Very well, I will summon forth the creatures of the deep. They do not like being disturbed so you must protect me from harm. I am very vulnerable when summoning the dwellers of the deep. If death claims me the summoning will be finished. During the course of the summoning many powerful dwellers will appear. You must watch for them.'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:08:57 2013] Fishlord Lezom says 'It is over. Failure is all that we have gained here.'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:13 2013] Huffwins tells the raid, 'supposed to guard fishlord eh?'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:10:20 2013] You tell your raid, 'k so... swim to right side fishlord I guess! through the east tunnel'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:11:30 2013] You tell your raid, 'o i have no idea where the fishlord will stop'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:22:24 2013] Bragon tells the raid, 'must not target fishlord must not target fishlord'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:22:52 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'Very well, I will summon forth the creatures of the deep. They do not like being disturbed so you must protect me from harm. I am very vulnerable when summoning the dwellers of the deep. If death claims me the summoning will be finished. During the course of the summoning many powerful dwellers will appear. You must watch for them.'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:23:09 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'Listen oh spirits of water! I summon forth the dwellers of the deep.' He then begins to hum softly closing his eyes and seemingly settling into a deep focus. Suddenly he shouts a mystical chant saying, 'XAX XAX tomae tomae XAX podiggle podiggle XAX AZKHAZKKKY!''
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:26 2013] You tell your raid, 'dont hurt fishlord'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:32 2013] Ader tells the raid, 'Blur Fishlord Craiyk'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:32:04 2013] Fishlord Craiyk regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:32:42 2013] Lurari tells the guild, 'fishlord must live'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:38:32 2013] You say to your guild, 'nice other fishlord respawned'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:15 2013] You say to your guild, 'fishlord event'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:48 2013] Caston tells the guild, 'I don't know anything about the fishlord event but I might join'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:46 2013] Tarkon tells the guild, 'and don't target the fishlord when you attack'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:51:57 2013] Hemper tells the raid, 'fishlord 51%'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:02 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'A dweller of some power comes, prepare yourself.'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:21 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'A dweller of some power comes, prepare yourself.'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:08 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'A dweller of some power comes, prepare yourself.'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:15:06 2013] Fishlord Craiyk says 'A dweller of some power comes, prepare yourself.'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:18:27 2013] Huffwins tells the raid, 'Fishlord Craiyk 4 % cmon wake up'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:46 2013] Ader tells the raid, 'Fishlord Craiyk at 1%'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] Fishlord Craiyk has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] Fishlord Craiyk's corpse says 'It is over. Failure is all that we have gained here.'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:20:55 2013] Tarkon tells the raid, 'We learned that this is the first and last Fishlord event in Tarkon's AK career:)'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:22:00 2013] You say to your guild, 'then we let fishlord die'


    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:06 2013] You tell your raid, 'a named!'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:11 2013] You tell your raid, 'stringy anglerfish'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:11 2013] Bragon says, 'Hail, a stringy anglerfish'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:34 2013] Ryanne tells the guild, 'resisting slow named'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:20 2013] a stringy anglerfish has become ENRAGED.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:37 2013] a stringy anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:37 2013] You gained raid experience!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:37 2013] a stringy anglerfish's corpse has its last vestiges of life escape as it falls dead.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:42 2013] This corpse will decay in 29 minute(s) 48 seconds.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:50 2013] You tell your raid, 'and he dropped nothing, win'
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--


    [Sat Apr 27 21:00:03 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:16:22 2013] Your target resisted the Summer's Flame spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:32:56 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:34:58 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:52 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:44 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:17:34 2013] Your target resisted the Ensnare spell.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:18:55 2013] Your target resisted the Summer's Flame spell.

    Not too terribly resisty.

    [Sat Apr 27 21:30:18 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:33:08 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:34:19 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:37:17 2013] A ferocious anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:19 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:51 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:52:42 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:53:16 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:10 2013] A hungry anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:04:33 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:08:54 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:12:04 2013] A ferocious anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:12:50 2013] A furious anglerfish has been ensnared.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:54 2013] A reef anglerfish has been ensnared.


    [Sat Apr 27 21:08:59 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 290 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:08:59 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:02 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:02 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:04 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:06 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:06 2013] A fierce anglerfish hits YOU for 471 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:11 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:10 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 199 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:33:28 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:33:29 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 653 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:34:19 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:34:20 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:58 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:58 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 502 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:59 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 441 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:00 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 320 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:01 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 744 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:03 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:03 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 683 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:05 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 471 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:05 2013] A ferocious anglerfish hits YOU for 744 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:19 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:34 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 229 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:45 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 471 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:47 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 380 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:51 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:52 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 562 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:55 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 199 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:01 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 441 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:03 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:06 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 683 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:28 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 653 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:28 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 562 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:30 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:35 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:10 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 834 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:12 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 871 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:14 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 465 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:14 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 207 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:15 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 908 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:15 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 908 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:17 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 428 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:17 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 908 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:17 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 576 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:19 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 871 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:19 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 908 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:19 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 613 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:22 2013] A furious anglerfish hits YOU for 562 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:22 2013] A hungry anglerfish hits YOU for 908 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:02 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 471 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:02 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 259 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:02 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:11:12 2013] A furious anglerfish hits YOU for 441 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:11:12 2013] A furious anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:11:18 2013] A furious anglerfish hits YOU for 441 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:35 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 350 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:35 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 593 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:44 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:44 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 744 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:27 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 864 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:27 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 1031 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:30 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 613 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:30 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 1031 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:30 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 1031 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:33 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 1031 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:35 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 237 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:35 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 1031 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:35 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 237 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:38 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 237 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:41 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 237 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:41 2013] A dark anglerfish hits YOU for 655 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:55 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:57 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 653 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 562 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] A reef anglerfish hits YOU for 168 points of damage.
     
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  19. Darchon

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    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:16 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:27 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:36 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by a frog!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:58 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Krumple!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:27:43 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:15 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Krumple!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:34 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:30:26 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:30:49 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:31:41 2013] a fierce anglerfish has been slain by Xenobn!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:32:02 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ader!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:33:10 2013] a furious anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:33:29 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:34:34 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:17 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:48 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Tarkon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:36:21 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:37:37 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:38:08 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:38:28 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:39:11 2013] a fierce anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:40:49 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:39 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:01 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Krumple!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:43:39 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:44:39 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:09 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:38 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:47:11 2013] a fierce anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:29 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:49:56 2013] a furious anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:42 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:51:43 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:52:29 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ader!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:52:53 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:53:31 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:55:02 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Vabantik!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:37 2013] a stringy anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:19 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:27 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ader!
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:47 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:21 2013] a fierce anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:46 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:11 2013] a fierce anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:01:22 2013] You have been slain by a hungry anglerfish!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:03:08 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:03:58 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:05:04 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ader!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:05:58 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:06:12 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:07:08 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:07:37 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:08:41 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:07 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Huffwins!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:10:13 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:10:32 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:11:21 2013] a furious anglerfish has been slain by Hemper!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:12:15 2013] You have slain a ferocious anglerfish!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:08 2013] You have slain a furious anglerfish!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:13:46 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:14:32 2013] a toughened anglerfish has been slain by Bragon!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:15:06 2013] a ferocious anglerfish has been slain by Judah!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:43 2013] a dark anglerfish has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:17:05 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ader!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:18:05 2013] You have slain a reef anglerfish!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:18:54 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Senbus!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:16 2013] You have slain a ferocious anglerfish!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:19:59 2013] Fishlord Craiyk has been slain by Mienae!
    [Sat Apr 27 22:20:22 2013] a reef anglerfish has been slain by Ascendance!


    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:39 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:09:40 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:10:03 2013] --You have looted a Sparkling Fish Scales.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:10:04 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:10:04 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:44 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:24:45 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:25:01 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:25:01 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:25:06 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:25:07 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:19 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:28:19 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:29:23 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:29:23 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:31:05 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:31:06 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:31:47 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:31:47 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:55 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:35:56 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:40:51 2013] --You have looted a Gemmed Fin.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:43 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:41:44 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:05 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:05 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:56 2013] --You have looted a Shimmering Fish Gills.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:57 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:42:57 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:12 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:13 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:49 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:45:49 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:38 2013] --You have looted a Gemmed Fin.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:39 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:48:40 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:50 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:50:50 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:51:11 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:51:11 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:52:56 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:52:56 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:53:42 2013] --You have looted a Shimmering Fish Gills.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:53:43 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:53:43 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:56:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:45 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:46 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:53 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 21:57:54 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:51 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:57 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:00:58 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:02:46 2013] --Archonn has looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:02:47 2013] --Archonn has looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:03:28 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:03:29 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:06:45 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:06:45 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:06:57 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:06:58 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:09 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:09 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:09:43 2013] --You have looted a Spectral Parchment.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:10:37 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:10:37 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:12:19 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:12:20 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:14:36 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:14:36 2013] --You have looted a Ocean Ink.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:16:50 2013] --You have looted a Shimmering Fish Gills.--
    [Sat Apr 27 22:21:41 2013] Quack tells the guild, 'what boss loot dropped?'
    [Sat Apr 27 22:21:53 2013] You say to your guild, '4 bosses, none dropped loot except 1 SP'
     
  20. Torven

    Torven I Feel Loved

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    Nice summary. The RvR looks fantastic. God bless EQ.
     
  21. Elroz

    Elroz I Feel Loved Staff Member

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    From what I can gather (I've been bugging those guys on agnarr that keep running it), sounds like most of the wave bosses drop a spec parchment or glyphed rune word, and you usually get 2 loot drops per full event, 1 from a wave boss in the middle of script, one from the final boss. I don't know if that's 100%, or if it's like 10% chance to get loot from each wave boss and it just ends up averaging 2 loot per run.
     
  22. Morbo

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    Wow was the spawn time for VT trash on AK that different from other servers? I remember no more than 10 minutes on repops of regular trash. Constantly moving - no afk ever.
     
  23. Darchon

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    I don't know of any time that VT was a 10minute respawn.

    Constantly moving yes, but I don't believe that zone ever respawned at 10min.
     
  24. robregen

    robregen Administrator Staff Member

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    that's just about how long it takes for a raid to kill one mob in VT. lol
     
  25. Morbo

    Morbo Well-Known Member

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    It's been a long time, I may be remembering incorrectly. 10 min now that I think about it more I'm sure is too fast because of splitting mobs and average density.

    But then again there are detailed posts like this that say 8-10 min.
     
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  26. Torven

    Torven I Feel Loved

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    Ok, I've re-read the VT respawn timer posts, and I'm still not satisfied. So what is it?

    Faults says 5.5 with no variance. This would make doing 3 clears per reboot rather easy. Ravenwing says you've not done it, and Zorblak's logs don't seem to show 3 clears a reboot either. (although I could have easily missed a case) 5.5 with no variance also disagrees with everything I've found elsewhere.

    The consequence of getting this wrong could result in 50% more loot flooding the server and the loss of sanity for some players, so I want a solid answer for this one.

    Btw, I've made Emp 6.5 +/-24 hours (48 hour window) unless somebody gives me reason to change it.
     
  27. necra

    necra People Like Me

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    Destiny used to get 3 clears sometimes but it involved our Aussie, euro and est crew killing mobs asap I couldn’t tell you the exact timer though
     
  28. Faults

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    Destiny would get 3 clears when we'd hit the reset immediately - and then be on top of it. The way the warders worked from what I recall everything always seemed to spawn in the same order it died in (or all at once) and we only had trouble with warders blocking floors when days separated kills of necessary mobs.

    Resets happened at 6:30am-7am from what I recall. Then destiny raids were at 3pm est, 8pm est and about 4am est (euro, DECC, darco's drunk ass morning aussie stuff)
     
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  29. Torven

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    To me it sounds like 6.5 days with 0 variance, not 5.5.

    5.5 would allow for 3 clears with 2+ days to clear the third time. 6.5 would require you to do the first clear within like 12 hours. 6.5 would also require 0 boot or kill variances to fit 3 clears in.
     
  30. Faults

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    Any resets fully repopped VT on AK lol. So any boots were a bonus clear.