Hmm might have been my client zip, at one point I was copying in a bunch of stuff into the resource folder trying to get the sound running.
I was trying all sorts of things too. Could be where that zip came from originally. No clue. Was just happy to get music playing and some of area specific sounds going. I was only running around pok. Didnt have time to play with other zones yet.
It looks like those missing files fixed some of the wav sounds (the ones located in the pfs files) but not the xmi files. I have to admit when I was playing with the xmi stuff and found out the wav files weren't playing as well I was kind of shocked. While converting them to mp3s worked I believe there was something like 3000 of them. The good news is that this discovery compliments the xmi->mp3 workaround to bring more sound to the game.
I will look at the xmi's closer. And see what the intel client is loading. There may be a format issue. I might grab my ppc build, and see what files are in there and/or what is on original eqmac install cds.
If it's any help, I started on AK with an old PPC PowerMac (running Tiger OSX), the xmi files didn't play on there either... but they were present in the game directory.
Heres an interesting bit from http://www.radgametools.com/msshist.htm And this bit: The second bullet gives me the feeling that the files (given the presence of mssmixer.mix) might have been sent with the intel mac client at one point.
Have we got this down to a process where a dummy like me could unzip the files and put them in the correct place or is that still a while off? Tudo
I believe the devs are working on getting the lost/missing music into both the Mac and PC downloadable game files (from the wiki). I'm going to hold off til they get it all worked out (which sounds like soon). Think it's trial & error right now, but getting very close. Our original post was only in reference to the old xmi files not playing on a Mac (but playing on the PC hack version, like Secrets) but if I understand correctly, in the process of looking into that, they have discovered music/sound effects that were also not playing in our PC client. So, they are getting to the point where, not only will missing music appear in the Mac client, the missing sounds on PC client will also re-emerge. Possibly even the long lost Luclin music that Daybreak discovered? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's the status. Pretty exciting to me Been curious about this for years! I know not everyone listens to EQ music, but to me, it's like removing the soundtrack from a good movie... just not the same. I always missed it on AK.
I'm one of the few people that didn't turn off music and I think this is great news. I still remember there being music in so many places that it does not currently play at (pc client). Can't wait for an update.
I can tell you. With these fixes, PC client plays music everywhere. We have been playing with software based midi synthesizers on PC, and it makes a HUGE difference too. There is a release candidate up on the wiki for DL of PC client. Get it. Test it out. See if you find issues. It should be in about its final state. We had people running all over luclin zones, working on getting the mp3s playing. I think the mp3's from luclin are included. The ones that DBG "found" recently. So many of the dead silent luclin zones will have music too. H
Luclin are not included in RC but will be included in RC2. Hope to get them out this week if not today.
When I ran around Freeport and Qeynos with the original PC client, I always heard the music and assumed all PC client music was working, guess not. On another subject: when/if the Mac client has the xmi music restored, does it look like it will be the xmi playing thru midi synth, or will it be mp3 files which have replaced the xmi's? Am I making sense?
YEA !!! music in North Ro now...my fav music....how long to make all these toons to work on the Mac side?
Macs may require conversion of midi stuff to mp3. I think its doable. May just take more effort. But we are sure going to give it a go. H
I second that ^^^ If I'm not mistaken, Seduce had already started doing perfect (if not improved) mp3 renditions of the xmi music files, had done 7 or 8 I think. I also had virtually all converted to mp3 from xmi at some point (a couple of years ago). I don't recall which tool I used, but I may still have them somewhere. Sounds like that's what Kicnlag did also, converted to mp3 from xmi: "I used XMPlay with the MIDI plugin to playback and encode the audio. The MIDI plugin was loaded with 1mgm.sf2 as well as synthusr.sf2 and synthus2.sf2 from the game directory. Each subsong was saved as its own mp3 in the format <original xmi>(subsong #).mp3 for example qeytoqrg.xmi(6).mp3, the Sayer house music in Qeynos Hills. There is a lot of room to create mp3s that use different soundfonts, software, or methods of capture. I took a relatively easy path that I personally found to be good enough(tm). Getting someone with sound expertise to create the mp3s would be another path to explore."
Hiya Yinn! Yes you are right, was talking to hobbart from Sony online entertainment and was going to do a zone by zone recreation of all the music played by myself. Here were a few examples I did for them from that time. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46437384/Everquest Mac Sony My playing Music and redo.mp4 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46437384/Everquest Kaladim Theme My Remake played by Seduce.mp4 Two ways that this could be done here at takp. You could do the music like it done above on my examples or recreate the general midi music (playback using the old sound instruments but get in engineered and mixed proper for the mac client) The one issue with general midi was, everyone had different midi instrument sets. For example, a Yamaha XG sounded different then a microsoft midi soft synth built into windows 98, or a Roland sound canvas. Midi, in its simplest form, is just note data with controller info (vol, pan, pitch etc). With midi you needed a hardware or software based synth to play the music back (at this era of time). Modern sequencers use VST, au and other forms of internal emulated synths. On the mac client, all the general midi zones would have to be converted to a mp3 format, which was my original goal before eq mac was sunsetted. Hope this helps! And hello again Yinn! -Seduce
I was going to do one zone. And set the mp3's in the .emt file. And see how it did on mac, using regions, fade in, fade out.
I tried using an emt file with the mac client recently without success. The client has references to .emt in it and when I record the File Activity using Instruments I see the client checks for the emt file when you zone but it doesn't look like it ever opens the file or reads the contents. Blindly trying to see what's going on with Hopper only showed that my x86 assembly is too rusty Edit: Heres some pictures of what I got from the file activity. Going to upload one for each line because they include the call stack. Edit2: Going back through it and recording the activity with an eff file doesn't appear to record details about bytes read either. It might be safe to assume my previous assumption is wrong and that the client may actually try to read the file.
Here is what I set up for Greater Faydark for intel mac. It plays mp3's. The emt format is different for mac it seems. It looks like the first parameter needs to be the name of the file. I have not tested if wav's play in the areas. This is very preliminary. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u6h3hxdow3q42yd/AABst9uYkUduRC8in_pBmivxa?dl=0
Thats great Haynar. Two little characters... I tested north qeynos with these files: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3lrlxda94v5prt2/AABZVGVKfOeVUpknq6H5LGX3a?dl=0 It played the two mp3s as well as the spaceship & nighttime wavs.
I would like to make a single mp3 for a zone, with different tracks. Then see if can use the indexing in the .emt file, to play them. This would make less files, and everything simple for creating alternative sets of .emt files for intel client. Thats what I plan to do next with the gfay files, combine into a single mp3, and test that out. H
Here are some emt/mp3s that can be dropped in /Applications/EverQuest.app/Contents/Resources/ for brave people who can't wait to see where Haynar is taking this and arn't afraid to break their client. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zf9lhykcjmhzwnr/AABg0zXilQ8dV-1q3CKnEGmLa?dl=0 The emt's are based off the windows RC2 client. Some zone's emt files are missing corresponding mp3s. One example is south ro which didn't have an xmi file to make a mp3 out of. Spoiler cp: beholder.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: beholder.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: bothunder.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: butcher.xmi(8).mp3: No such file or directory cp: cazicthule.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: cazicthule.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: cazicthule.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: cobaltscar.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: commons.xmi(8).mp3: No such file or directory cp: crystal.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: crystal.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: crystal.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: everfrost.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: everfrost.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: everfrost.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: everfrost.xmi(8).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: fearplane.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: feerrott.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: feerrott.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: feerrott.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: feerrott.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: feerrott.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: frozenshadow.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or 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such file or directory cp: kithicor.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lakerathe.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lfaydark.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lfaydark.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lfaydark.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lfaydark.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: lfaydark.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: misty.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: misty.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: misty.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: nektulos.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: nektulos.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oasis.xmi(8).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(10).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(8).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oggok.xmi(9).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oot.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oot.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oot.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oot.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: oot.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: permafrost.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: permafrost.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: permafrost.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: permafrost.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: permafrost.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: skyshrine.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: skyshrine.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: skyshrine.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: skyshrine.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: sro.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: sro.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: sro.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: sro.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: sro.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: steamfont.xmi(7).mp3: No such file or directory cp: templeveeshan.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: templeveeshan.xmi(3).mp3: No such file or directory cp: templeveeshan.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: thurgadina.xmi(4).mp3: No such file or directory cp: thurgadina.xmi(5).mp3: No such file or directory cp: thurgadina.xmi(6).mp3: No such file or directory cp: thurgadinb.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: thurgadinb.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: velketor.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: velketor.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory cp: wakening.xmi(1).mp3: No such file or directory cp: wakening.xmi(2).mp3: No such file or directory The commands I used to tweak the emt files and select only the referenced mp3s are below.. I use gsed (brew install gnu-sed) because bsd sed doesn't support a few features I needed. Fun stuff. I also used xargs J parameter which needs to be changed for linux. Code: [ Only registered users can see the bbcode. Click Here To Register... ] Disclaimer: I have tried a handful of zones but it's very possible that some zones might not work or may even crash the client. Bonus: http://xkcd.com/208/
The one that Kicnlag mentioned is for the intel mac. emt from PC client are different than emt for Mac Client. If you want sounds for PC. you can download the supported pc client from the wiki. The above link will not work with the PC.
